APRIL 12, 2026 · 6 MIN READ

Plato and Software Engineering

A small translation note that reveals a much deeper distinction about change, state, and what our systems really are.

The quote in question is from Timaeus, which is often used to describe Plato’s Forms and particulars:

“What is that which always is and has no becoming; and what is that which is always becoming and never is?”.

The correct translation should read:

“What is that which always is (in the same state) and has no becoming (and perishing), and what is that which is always becoming (and perishing) but (and) never is (in the same state)

You could see this is correct translation because in the very next sentence he elaborates:

That which is apprehended by intelligence and reason is always in the same state; but that which is conceived by opinion with the help of sensation and without reason, is always in a process of becoming and perishing and never really is.

He also repeats this distinction in several other books, but with different wordings.

Exact distinction exists in software modeling as Value objects vs Entities objects in Domain Driven Design.

Where Entities:

Value objects:

τί τὸ ὂν ἀεί, γένεσιν δὲ οὐκ ἔχον, καὶ τί τὸ γιγνόμενον μὲν ἀεί, ὂν δὲ οὐδέποτε; 27d

τὸ μὲν δὴ νοήσει μετὰ λόγου περιληπτόν, ἀεὶ κατὰ ταὐτὰ ὄν, τὸ δ᾽ αὖ δόξῃ μετ᾽ αἰσθήσεως ἀλόγου δοξαστόν, γιγνόμενον καὶ ἀπολλύμενον, ὄντως δὲ οὐδέποτε ὄν. 28a

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